Yeah. [ she sobers a little. ] He's the one I had in mind when I was having trouble figuring out how to ... [ she gestures limply, as if to indicate their entire circumstance. ] You know. Manage?

[ he's the thing holding her back. ]

It's stupid, you know, I don't think he'd worry about it. Not that he doesn't care. He does. But people just like him. He has an easy time of it.