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[ Caleb's getting pissed for Nate's sake, which isn't helpful, so he makes an effort to keep it down. ]
Yeah, that's really not a healthy approach to a partner doing something you don't like. I know break-ups suck, especially coming out of a longer relationship, but it sounds like you're already doing what's best for everyone involved.
Have you talked to him since?
Yeah, that's really not a healthy approach to a partner doing something you don't like. I know break-ups suck, especially coming out of a longer relationship, but it sounds like you're already doing what's best for everyone involved.
Have you talked to him since?
Yeah. Once.
[ Nate takes a breath. ]
I'm still his Dominant. The city let us break the permanent contract but we have to stay in a temporary one for three months. Then he can find someone else. So I asked if he needed anything, and tried to be like, cordial. And it just devolved into a fight because--
[ He laughs, and looks down. ]
Because I'd moved out, right, I let him stay in the house? But he started looking for an apartment he was gonna get. Except he didn't tell me that, even though I'm still his Dom, and when he finally did tell me I freaked out because it's another thing he just didn't communicate with me about. And it brought up...all of this, the anger. The resentment, the bitterness. And I hate being that person, I hate feeling this way.
[ And that, really, is why he's here to talk about it now. Everything he's said so far, it's context. He looks up at Caleb, and takes a sip of that coffee. ]
I, erm...Hope Mikaelson, she killed a guy on the Network. It was someone important to Nick and to Kyle, and they're...well, I love Nick. And Kyle's important. I wanted to take care of them and I didn't want to be obsessing about Stephen while I did. And this...
I'd talked to this other girl. Goddess. Persephone. She wanted someone to remove her ability to love, permanently. I said no, but. I did...make a potion to take away the heartbreak she's feeling now. Talking to her and doing that, it made me think. Maybe I would be happier if I removed my heartbreak, too. And then when Nick and Kyle needed me, I asked Anna to do it, temporarily. And she did, and it was like...
God, it was like this weight was lifted from me. But it all came back after, and ever since that. I'm tempted to take that potion myself, kind of...unbind myself, from all those feelings.
[ He pauses, collecting his thoughts, and he chews his cheek. ]
I don't know if that'd be like. Cheating. Or if it's a good idea, like. Should someone get a free pass from heartbreak? Should I let myself feel all of this, even the...bitterness and anger, because it's somehow better long term? And then I thought, maybe the person I should talk that through with is you.
[ Nate takes a breath. ]
I'm still his Dominant. The city let us break the permanent contract but we have to stay in a temporary one for three months. Then he can find someone else. So I asked if he needed anything, and tried to be like, cordial. And it just devolved into a fight because--
[ He laughs, and looks down. ]
Because I'd moved out, right, I let him stay in the house? But he started looking for an apartment he was gonna get. Except he didn't tell me that, even though I'm still his Dom, and when he finally did tell me I freaked out because it's another thing he just didn't communicate with me about. And it brought up...all of this, the anger. The resentment, the bitterness. And I hate being that person, I hate feeling this way.
[ And that, really, is why he's here to talk about it now. Everything he's said so far, it's context. He looks up at Caleb, and takes a sip of that coffee. ]
I, erm...Hope Mikaelson, she killed a guy on the Network. It was someone important to Nick and to Kyle, and they're...well, I love Nick. And Kyle's important. I wanted to take care of them and I didn't want to be obsessing about Stephen while I did. And this...
I'd talked to this other girl. Goddess. Persephone. She wanted someone to remove her ability to love, permanently. I said no, but. I did...make a potion to take away the heartbreak she's feeling now. Talking to her and doing that, it made me think. Maybe I would be happier if I removed my heartbreak, too. And then when Nick and Kyle needed me, I asked Anna to do it, temporarily. And she did, and it was like...
God, it was like this weight was lifted from me. But it all came back after, and ever since that. I'm tempted to take that potion myself, kind of...unbind myself, from all those feelings.
[ He pauses, collecting his thoughts, and he chews his cheek. ]
I don't know if that'd be like. Cheating. Or if it's a good idea, like. Should someone get a free pass from heartbreak? Should I let myself feel all of this, even the...bitterness and anger, because it's somehow better long term? And then I thought, maybe the person I should talk that through with is you.
I saw the post.
[ He met Hope once, and he knows Nick and Anna, so he has a good picture of what that's been like. He's been wondering if he could help, turn Hope's feelings back on or something, but his control is still shaky at best and he really doesn't want to be added to the body count.
That's not the point right now, anyway, the point is the break-up and heartbreak and whether or not wiping emotions off with magic is healthy. ]
I don't think it matters if it's cheating or not. I don't really understand magic, but I understand feelings, and heartbreak and it's a whole process. I think we need it. I think... if we try to skip a step at the end of it it all feels like a puzzle with a missing piece.
[ He's thinking about his ex, it's been months now but it still feels fresh, like a fresh wound, like the slightest poke at it will make it burst open and all these feelings will come out. ]
It's— you need to give yourself permission to be angry and bitter. There's nothing wrong with that, he hurt you, you're allowed to be hurt. There's catharsis there too, you know? Not like, screaming and punching walls, but just acknowledging that you were wronged and it's fucked up and it's okay to be mad about it.
[ He met Hope once, and he knows Nick and Anna, so he has a good picture of what that's been like. He's been wondering if he could help, turn Hope's feelings back on or something, but his control is still shaky at best and he really doesn't want to be added to the body count.
That's not the point right now, anyway, the point is the break-up and heartbreak and whether or not wiping emotions off with magic is healthy. ]
I don't think it matters if it's cheating or not. I don't really understand magic, but I understand feelings, and heartbreak and it's a whole process. I think we need it. I think... if we try to skip a step at the end of it it all feels like a puzzle with a missing piece.
[ He's thinking about his ex, it's been months now but it still feels fresh, like a fresh wound, like the slightest poke at it will make it burst open and all these feelings will come out. ]
It's— you need to give yourself permission to be angry and bitter. There's nothing wrong with that, he hurt you, you're allowed to be hurt. There's catharsis there too, you know? Not like, screaming and punching walls, but just acknowledging that you were wronged and it's fucked up and it's okay to be mad about it.
[ Nate looks down. ]
I know. I don't think that I'm wrong to feel that way, I just.
[ He hesitates, letting out a breath. It feels like an easy way out. He thinks, if he does it this time, then the next time someone breaks his heart, he'll find it even harder. But then, couldn't he just remove that pain, too? Why would he live with pain if he doesn't have to? Why would anyone? ]
I hate feeling this way. I hate it, I'm...miserable. And I could just, not be. Instantly.
And the thing that holds me back most is thinking, what if he changes his mind and then my feelings are gone? And I know I shouldn't...even think that, but. I am.
I know. I don't think that I'm wrong to feel that way, I just.
[ He hesitates, letting out a breath. It feels like an easy way out. He thinks, if he does it this time, then the next time someone breaks his heart, he'll find it even harder. But then, couldn't he just remove that pain, too? Why would he live with pain if he doesn't have to? Why would anyone? ]
I hate feeling this way. I hate it, I'm...miserable. And I could just, not be. Instantly.
And the thing that holds me back most is thinking, what if he changes his mind and then my feelings are gone? And I know I shouldn't...even think that, but. I am.
[ The more he thinks about it, the less Caleb likes the idea of Nate getting rid of his feelings. It doesn't feel right, but he's not sure he can articulate properly why he thinks it's a bad idea. ]
You can't control what Stephen does or doesn't do, you gotta make choices based on what's best for yourself— Uh. I don't think in general that getting rid of your feelings is what's best, but I don't know how it works.
Is it a blank slate? Like, would you remember your relationship but not how you felt about him? If you thought back of your first kiss would it be like... I don't know, thinking back on a movie you didn't care about either way?
You can't control what Stephen does or doesn't do, you gotta make choices based on what's best for yourself— Uh. I don't think in general that getting rid of your feelings is what's best, but I don't know how it works.
Is it a blank slate? Like, would you remember your relationship but not how you felt about him? If you thought back of your first kiss would it be like... I don't know, thinking back on a movie you didn't care about either way?
[ Nate's eyebrows come together. He can only theorise, because he hasn't actually experienced this yet. So... ]
I can't tell you that unless I try it. But what I think it does is, it leaves the memories but it washes the feelings from them.
So I'd remember that kiss, but not how I felt about it. I'd remember being with him, but I wouldn't still love him, and if I didn't love him, then I wouldn't be missing him, or be angry at him.
I can't tell you that unless I try it. But what I think it does is, it leaves the memories but it washes the feelings from them.
So I'd remember that kiss, but not how I felt about it. I'd remember being with him, but I wouldn't still love him, and if I didn't love him, then I wouldn't be missing him, or be angry at him.
... wouldn't you hate that?
[ Caleb knows he would personally hate it, but he's an empath, if his memories weren't splashed with emotions then they'd feel fake. ]
[ Caleb knows he would personally hate it, but he's an empath, if his memories weren't splashed with emotions then they'd feel fake. ]
[ Nate hesitates. ]
I thought so. Before.
But when Anna did it temporarily, it just felt like this weight was lifted from me.
I don't know if those good memories are worth how bad I feel now. They're tainted by it. Thinking about them just makes me miss him more.
I thought so. Before.
But when Anna did it temporarily, it just felt like this weight was lifted from me.
I don't know if those good memories are worth how bad I feel now. They're tainted by it. Thinking about them just makes me miss him more.
Just because it sucks now it doesn't mean it's always sucked, or that it'll suck forever. Is this your first ever break-up?
[ It'd make sense for it to be. Caleb's only ever had one, but he felt every single one back at his high school, so he figures he has more experience than most. ]
[ It'd make sense for it to be. Caleb's only ever had one, but he felt every single one back at his high school, so he figures he has more experience than most. ]
Right, that makes sense. You love him and you thought he'd be there forever, and it turns out you were wrong, and it feels like losing a part of yourself.
[ He's been there. Hell, he's still there. He'd probably have gone for an easy way out right after the break-up. ]
It sucks and it's gonna suck for a long time, and I get this place is what it is and you feel like you don't have the time to nurse a heartbreak when there's something terrible going on always. But I really do think you should get through it the slow, annoying way, because when you're through then you'll know you can get through it.
[ He's been there. Hell, he's still there. He'd probably have gone for an easy way out right after the break-up. ]
It sucks and it's gonna suck for a long time, and I get this place is what it is and you feel like you don't have the time to nurse a heartbreak when there's something terrible going on always. But I really do think you should get through it the slow, annoying way, because when you're through then you'll know you can get through it.
Dude, you're way stronger than you give yourself credit for. And you're not on your own, you got me and your friends and your coven.
[ He breathes out. Trying to think about what he wished he'd had back when his break-up was an open wound. ]
And if it gets to be too much, I think I can dull it. It's temporary but it wears off less suddenly.
[ He breathes out. Trying to think about what he wished he'd had back when his break-up was an open wound. ]
And if it gets to be too much, I think I can dull it. It's temporary but it wears off less suddenly.
Not really? I mean, when it first started happening I didn't even realize I was doing it. I think because I'm a receptive empath, when this new thing started it was like self-defense, maybe? I started giving people feelings that were easier for me to handle, so like, welcoming new students or whatever I just made everyone feel less nervous.
[ He doesn't love it, but he knows it can help so he's been working on getting better at it. ]
One on one it doesn't really tire me out at all, unless the person's feelings are really intense or if there are a lot of them.
[ Like Jon, who still feels like he's possessed by a thousand screaming souls. But Nate has a normal amount of feelings, it should be fine. ]
[ He doesn't love it, but he knows it can help so he's been working on getting better at it. ]
One on one it doesn't really tire me out at all, unless the person's feelings are really intense or if there are a lot of them.
[ Like Jon, who still feels like he's possessed by a thousand screaming souls. But Nate has a normal amount of feelings, it should be fine. ]
Yeah, but your feelings are not like— Scrooge possessed by ever soul he ever wronged feelings.
[ He meets Nate's eyes. He really does think riding it out is the best option. ]
I think you'll be better off in the long run, yeah. It's not easy, but I think it's important to let it run its course.
[ He meets Nate's eyes. He really does think riding it out is the best option. ]
I think you'll be better off in the long run, yeah. It's not easy, but I think it's important to let it run its course.
[ Nate nods, and sighs. It's not what he wanted to hear, but it's maybe what he expected to hear, and maybe that's why he hadn't already acted on this. ]
I wish that didn't make sense. I'd like to just...not feel crazy, for a minute. You know? Not be freaking out because my friends, or their friends keep dying, not be sad about losing someone who mattered, and just be...fucking normal. I don't know if I'll ever feel normal again. I hate that.
I wish that didn't make sense. I'd like to just...not feel crazy, for a minute. You know? Not be freaking out because my friends, or their friends keep dying, not be sad about losing someone who mattered, and just be...fucking normal. I don't know if I'll ever feel normal again. I hate that.
Yeah, I get it. You ever think you do too much?
[ Nate's name is the first that comes up whenever anyone needs help, it's got to be a lot of pressure. ]
[ Nate's name is the first that comes up whenever anyone needs help, it's got to be a lot of pressure. ]
There's that too, but mostly I mean you take on this role of like, the person to go to when there's a problem. Which means you never have the time to have a problem yourself.
[ Caleb's not judging it at all, he gets it. He also gets it's not the healthiest approach. ]
I think you could use like, a vacation.
[ Caleb's not judging it at all, he gets it. He also gets it's not the healthiest approach. ]
I think you could use like, a vacation.
[ Nate looks down again. Caleb is not exactly wrong. ]
That's the point, though, isn't it? If I haven't time to have a problem, then I won't hyperfocus on it and let it take over my life.
And if I took time off, then...fuck, I'd just spend all my time thinking about Stephen, probably.
That's the point, though, isn't it? If I haven't time to have a problem, then I won't hyperfocus on it and let it take over my life.
And if I took time off, then...fuck, I'd just spend all my time thinking about Stephen, probably.
Right, but you should. Like— it's gonna catch up with you, you can keep yourself busy now, but there's no expiration date on this kinda thing, it's not like, if you manage to distract yourself for three months then it'll be over.
[ This is still experience talking. ]
And then you'll be mad at yourself for not being over it yet, even though the reason you're not over it is because you haven't given yourself time to process it.
[ This is still experience talking. ]
And then you'll be mad at yourself for not being over it yet, even though the reason you're not over it is because you haven't given yourself time to process it.
Have you tried journaling? Just for yourself, it's a private outlet, and you can write things down then come back to it later and kinda, take stock of how you were feeling then.
[ Caleb meditates but he thinks Nate's need to be doing things would hinder him if he tried it. Writing might work out better for him, plus, then he'd have something to show people if he wanted to share. ]
[ Caleb meditates but he thinks Nate's need to be doing things would hinder him if he tried it. Writing might work out better for him, plus, then he'd have something to show people if he wanted to share. ]
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